PODCAST > EP 04

Mastering Customer Success Metrics for Early Stage Startups w/ Donna Weber

This Scale Tale podcast episode is hosted by Mausmi Ambastha, Co-founder and COO of ZapScale with the world-renowned onboarding expert and author of the book “Onboarding Matters” Donna Weber. She explores the domain of customer success focusing on tracking success metrics for early-stage companies. This episode highlights the importance of key metrics in gaining insights into customer success for sustainable revenue growth of the business.

About The Guest

Donna Weber is a leading customer success authority in customer onboarding and success. With over two decades of experience, she has helped startups and enterprises build successful customer programs. Donna’s expertise lies in transforming new customers into loyal brand advocates as evidenced by her acclaimed book “Onboarding Matters”.

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Key Takeaways

The conversation between Mausmi and Donna delves deeper into the critical aspect of measuring and optimizing the cost of customer onboarding (COCO), and its significance in customer success.

Let us look at some important takeaways from this conversation:

1. Importance Of COCO

Donna stressed the importance of the often-overlooked aspect of COCO (Cost of Customer Onboarding) and its impact on the overall profitability and success of the business. While there is a significant emphasis on Customer Acquisition Cost (CAC), understanding and controlling COCO is equally crucial for sustainable growth.

2. Significance Of Measurement

Mausmi underscores the importance of accurately measuring COCO, especially in early-stage startups where resources are limited and every cost matters. By understanding the true cost of onboarding, businesses can make informed decisions and allocate resources accordingly.

3. Calculating COCO

Donna provides a simple framework for calculating COCO, considering factors such as the duration of onboarding, resource allocation, and the fully loaded cost of personnel involved. By accurately measuring these variables, businesses can gain insights into the actual cost of onboarding and its impact on profitability.

4. Integration With Business Objectives

Both of them highlight the need for customer success efforts with broader business objectives, emphasizing the importance of delivering measurable results and tangible value to stakeholders.

5. Avoiding Common Mistakes

Donna cautions against common mistakes in calculating metrics, such as relying solely on assumptions or tracking activities without assessing their impact.

Instead, she advocates for a data-informed approach, focusing on key metrics and being proactive in measuring and optimizing customer success efforts.

6. Simplicity And Curiosity

Donna emphasizes the simplicity of data analysis and avoids overwhelm. She encourages curiosity and a proactive approach to exploring and understanding data, even with limited resources.

This ensures that businesses can derive valuable insights without getting bogged down by complexity.

Conclusion

Donna Weber underscores the importance of aligning customer success efforts with measurable business outcomes. By shifting the focus from mere activity tracking to understanding the importance of those activities, companies can better showcase their value to stakeholders.

She advocates for a methodical approach to measuring the cost of customer onboarding, emphasizing the need for realistic assessment rather than relying on assumptions.

Donna encourages businesses to conduct focused analyses starting with small samples and gradually scaling up, rather than getting bogged down into exhaustive data collection.

Connect With Experts

If you found this podcast insightful and wish to connect with Mausmi and Donna on LinkedIn, here are the links

Donna - https://www.linkedin.com/in/donnaweb/

Mausmi - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mausmiambastha/

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